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| Raiken | Mar 8 2015, 02:17 PM Post #1 |
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It seems as though Battle of Gods, and Battle of Gods 2"Revival of F" are taking the same sort of route as the finally of Dragonball Z, having Goku and Vegeta as the mains, and disregarding everything that came before the battle with Kid Buu. It seems like they have completely forgot about Gohan, who since the Cell Games - Z-Finally, was just as important as Goku and Vegeta, more important than Vegeta really Throughout Dragonball Z, the series has switched between importance between four main Characters: Goku, Gohan, Vegeta and Piccolo, Piccolo being made a side Character after the 7 year Time-Skip, "which really irritated me as Piccolo was one of my favourite Characters." So throughout most of Dragonball Z: Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo Then Piccolo got offed into a side Character: Buu Sagas: Goku, Gohan, Vegeta And now in the Battle of Gods Movies, it seems Gohan has been made into a side Character as well, leaving just: Battle of Gods Movies: Goku, Vegeta Which as I said, is following the same sort of route in how the fight between Kid-Buu went, but if anything Vegeta was just a distraction, now he's getting even more importance, and Gohan a lot less. Hell, the underlining plot of Gohan being the strongest of them all went on throughout the whole of Dragonball Z, against Raditz, then carried on throughout the series, then against Super Buu. That was a plot-line that stayed throughout the entire story. And yet, they just seem to have completely removed Gohan as a main Character, giving him equal importance to: side Characters, Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, Master Roshi and so on. They've done the exact same as GT, why all the Gohan hate, despite his massive role throughout the whole of Dragonball Z? What do you guys think? Edited by Raiken, Mar 8 2015, 02:21 PM.
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| + Pointer | Mar 8 2015, 02:18 PM Post #2 |
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They used t forget about the fact that the whole second part of DB was about that the hybrids are stronger than the saiyans. And we have goku and vegeta be the main ones, you cant blame toei as for BoG and the upcoming movie. Edited by Pointer, Mar 8 2015, 02:30 PM.
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| The Flash | Mar 8 2015, 03:11 PM Post #3 |
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Battle of Gods was crap in my opinion. I didn't liked how they treated vegeta. I also hated that rage boost that he received. Gohan is not loved anywhere near as goku and vegeta by the fans and toryiama probably knows that. Or maybe toei wants goku and vegeta to be more important than gohan no matter what. I think gohan should be the #2 character. He could have been , but because he failed against buu he lost interest. In my opinion it would have been better if those new movies would not exist. It ruins dragon ball, being soooo canon. And ... No one gives a f*** about GT. Also , I think vegeta got a little love in buu saga and I liked that , but it wasn't so relevant and was really weak. |
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| lazerbem | Mar 8 2015, 03:12 PM Post #4 |
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GT's treatment of Gohan is far more loving. At least he got some good fights that didn't involve him getting stomped. |
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| Billa | Mar 8 2015, 03:46 PM Post #5 |
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Thala na Gethu!
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Oops, Gohan getting ROFL stomped by Super 17 & Omega is considered loving. On Topic: tyrese gibson has virtually nothin goin for him. Has potential abused throughout his life. THUMPS UP! Lacks interest in fighting, but helpz Satan City citizens as Green Telletubies. THUMPS UP! Fails as fighter & scholar. If ur brawny, should've been savior of Earth in DB FINAL CANNONICAL ARC. Not gettin ROFL stomped, absorbed then killed by Buu. Or Brainy, gotta be at least on-par with Briefs in terms of wealth instead of stayin in Goddamn Mount Paozu. THUMPS UP! Be grateful the guy was relevant at least once upon a time in M9&10 |
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| lazerbem | Mar 8 2015, 04:22 PM Post #6 |
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He fought Goten and Rilldo, in those, he actually managed something. |
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| Southern Gothic | Mar 8 2015, 04:23 PM Post #7 |
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At least GT quit that Saiyaman nonsense and gave Gohan a couple of decent battles to boot. Plus, Baby Gohan v Vegeta is one of my personal favorites. Short but boss. Edited by Southern Gothic, Mar 8 2015, 04:24 PM.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Mar 8 2015, 04:24 PM Post #8 |
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Toriyama had intended on Gohan taking the lead role, but soon realized that Gohan wasn't suited for the role. As a result, the climax of Gohan's character is Gohan's victory over Cell. After that, Gohan went on doing what he wanted to do with his life. Ultimate Gohan was used as evidence of the fact that Gohan isn't suited for the role, as unfortunate as that may be. If I'm being honest though, if dropping Gohan is what it takes to make Vegeta relevant, I ain't complaining. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Mar 8 2015, 04:30 PM.
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| Raiken | Mar 8 2015, 05:16 PM Post #9 |
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Don't get me wrong, I dislike GT, more than I do Battle of Gods. Battle of Gods is apparently Canon, so I actually pay attention to it. And no, Gohan's character was fine up until the point plot forced it so Buu could absorb Gotenks and Piccolo, and had Buu become stronger than Gohan. Things I hated about the final part of DBZ. 1: The SSJ3 asspull, I mean, wat? -_- 1: Fusion Dance / Earings "It's just, ridiculous." 2: Elder Kai Sealed in Z-Sword with the ability to unlock Hidden Power, really................... 3: Gohan's treatment after all the build-up he had around him. Vegeta and Goku should have stayed dead and Gohan took over as protector of the earth. Would have been cool seeing Goku and Vegeta continue their rivalry in other world. Goku was even all like, these guys will have to protect the earth, I shouldn't even be here. Actually nah guys, it's k, I'm gonna be here forever. Edited by Raiken, Mar 8 2015, 05:18 PM.
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| SaiyaJedi | Mar 9 2015, 12:30 AM Post #10 |
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All this talk about the "treatment of Gohan" seems to ignore one crucial thing: the character's own motivation. It's pretty clear that he stops training after the Buu arc, and devotes himself to his academic future, as well as Videl and (eventually) his daughter Pan. Even if he still has the same kind of power, he's out of practice, and won't be able to use it nearly as well. (And furthermore, those who complain about his appearance in the new movie should try being the father of an infant for a while. Between the sleep deprivation and the lack of free time, one should be lucky he doesn't show up to the battle with 3-day stubble, dressed in his underwear and a T-shirt soiled with baby poo and spit-up.) Edited by SaiyaJedi, Mar 9 2015, 12:31 AM.
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| lazerbem | Mar 9 2015, 12:38 AM Post #11 |
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His attitude isn't the problem. It's the fact that he's turned into absolute fodder and has about as much influence on the plot as the humans. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Mar 9 2015, 12:39 AM Post #12 |
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Yeah, it should certainly come as no surprise that Gohan doesn't get the spotlight anymore, but I do think the heads of this franchise have gone a little overboard, as of late, with Gohan's lack of usefulness. I mean, you'd think they'd at least allow Gohan to bust some Freeza Soldier heads, but as we clearly see, Gohan gets knocked out at some point during the film. Oh well, I ain't a huge Gohan fan anyway. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Mar 9 2015, 12:42 AM Post #13 |
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Their treatment of Gohan was extremely poor, even looking at the things besides fighting. Apart from the reveal of Videl being pregnant and him playing Saiyaman while getting drunk, we saw pretty much nothing from him. Don't get me wrong, those scenes were great, and I loved seeing him being true to his character, but if they're not going to give him any decent fight scenes, they could've thrown the fans a bit more in the way of other scenes. |
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| Arkadom | Mar 9 2015, 12:43 AM Post #14 |
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How do you think I feel being a big Goten fan? He got shafted in GT, was maybe 1/8th of the effort of him and Trunks vs Frieza's underlings in that Yo Son Goku! special, has remained a child through BOG (though that's not so bad, same happened with Goku, he was 14/15 in the manga when it started but looked 6.) Not to mention even as Gotenks he's effectively useless as shown in the movie, and might not even be in ROF at all at this rate. On the subject of Gohan though, that was honestly always obvious, from the moment he beat Cell, as much as I like Gohan he was always destined to fall under the "wasted potential" category from the beginning, he's not a natural fighter, all that power is useless if you aren't really able to use it and Toriyama himself created the epilogue to DBZ which showed Gohan exactly as he was in GT, a family man and scholar very much removed from the world of combat, that's how Gohan's going to end up like it or not, so if anything else comes out after this movie Gohan is just heading ever-closer to the Yamcha cut and glasses, at least because GT is non-canon/canonically ambiguous it gives hope that Goten and Trunks might develop into actual warriors like they promised Goku before he left to train Uub instead of an company executive and a slacker who only really fights to impress his girlfriend (even though I thought GT Goten was awesome as a kid.) Simple fact is Gohan's not going to get treated any better any time soon because he, like everyone else, loses interest in fighting, it's only Goku and Vegeta who continue it thus only Goku and Vegeta who maintain their strength and actually stand a fighting chance. |
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| Ben | Mar 9 2015, 11:02 AM Post #15 |
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I think that once Toriyama flopped on Gohan being the main character, there just wasn't much left to do with him. I've said for years the better ending to the series would have been Goku passing the torch on to Gohan (than Oob), but I guess it just wasn't meant to be. |
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